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		<title>By: mekele</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>mekele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 08:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nette v2.0RC2 just released. English documentation, finally.
http://nette.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nette v2.0RC2 just released. English documentation, finally.<br />
<a href="http://nette.org/" rel="nofollow">http://nette.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: kalpesh</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-796</link>
		<dc:creator>kalpesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Sep 2011 07:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thankyou for such informaion....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thankyou for such informaion&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Leseberg</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie Leseberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 10:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting project and nicely laid out site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting project and nicely laid out site.</p>
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		<title>By: Romans Malinovskis</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-278</link>
		<dc:creator>Romans Malinovskis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 05:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently announced - Agile Toolkit. Full-featured PHP5-based framework focused on Simplicity and out-of-the-box User Interface with full AJAX integration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently announced &#8211; Agile Toolkit. Full-featured PHP5-based framework focused on Simplicity and out-of-the-box User Interface with full AJAX integration.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 08:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Christian for the nice links &amp; to Ernie for this cool listing. I would use some of this frameworks in an article about PHP framework performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Christian for the nice links &amp; to Ernie for this cool listing. I would use some of this frameworks in an article about PHP framework performance.</p>
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		<title>By: christian</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David:
I agree, that there may be too many frameworks out there. But I doo think, that the PHP community has not yet focused on the main aspects in (web) software development. These are - in my eyes - performance, reusability (to gain efficiency) and software design. If you take these points for comparison only a few frameworks are suitable.

If you consider performance, zend is not realy at the top. See http://adventure-php-framework.org/Page/103-Yii-vs-apf/~/sites_demosite_biz-action/sites_demosite_biz-action/setLanguage/lang/en or http://www.yiiframework.com/performance for example. With reusability by design, IMHO only Mojavi/Agavi and the APF are still in the game. The sofware design criterion is a very selective criterion, too, because most frameworks do not cover this chapter as it should be. Software design is one of the most important things, due to the fact, that poor performance often comes from poor design or wrong design focus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David:<br />
I agree, that there may be too many frameworks out there. But I doo think, that the PHP community has not yet focused on the main aspects in (web) software development. These are &#8211; in my eyes &#8211; performance, reusability (to gain efficiency) and software design. If you take these points for comparison only a few frameworks are suitable.</p>
<p>If you consider performance, zend is not realy at the top. See <a href="http://adventure-php-framework.org/Page/103-Yii-vs-apf/~/sites_demosite_biz-action/sites_demosite_biz-action/setLanguage/lang/en" rel="nofollow">http://adventure-php-framework.org/Page/103-Yii-vs-apf/~/sites_demosite_biz-action/sites_demosite_biz-action/setLanguage/lang/en</a> or <a href="http://www.yiiframework.com/performance" rel="nofollow">http://www.yiiframework.com/performance</a> for example. With reusability by design, IMHO only Mojavi/Agavi and the APF are still in the game. The sofware design criterion is a very selective criterion, too, because most frameworks do not cover this chapter as it should be. Software design is one of the most important things, due to the fact, that poor performance often comes from poor design or wrong design focus!</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not understand why so many different frameworks are being built.  It seems that if everyone pulled their features together there would be one incredible framework that could have a single configuration file that would allow you to choose to use ORM or not, choose to use Smarty or not, etc ad infinitum.   There could also be overides for those who prefer writing xml or sql to those using convention.  Please team up guys and gals.  I would love to see at most one rails inspried framework and one agavi style framework. Until then could someone at least rank these frameworks in terms of adoption, community support and deployment?  I imagine Zend is at the top but that is just a guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand why so many different frameworks are being built.  It seems that if everyone pulled their features together there would be one incredible framework that could have a single configuration file that would allow you to choose to use ORM or not, choose to use Smarty or not, etc ad infinitum.   There could also be overides for those who prefer writing xml or sql to those using convention.  Please team up guys and gals.  I would love to see at most one rails inspried framework and one agavi style framework. Until then could someone at least rank these frameworks in terms of adoption, community support and deployment?  I imagine Zend is at the top but that is just a guess.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Leseberg</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie Leseberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;/framework-atomik/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Atomik framework&lt;/a&gt; has been added. Nice well laid out site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="/framework-atomik/" rel="nofollow">Atomik framework</a> has been added. Nice well laid out site.</p>
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		<title>By: maxime</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>maxime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can check out (and perhaps add to your list) Atomik Framework. http://www.atomikframework.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can check out (and perhaps add to your list) Atomik Framework. <a href="http://www.atomikframework.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.atomikframework.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ernie Leseberg</title>
		<link>http://ernieleseberg.com/big-list-of-php-frameworks/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Ernie Leseberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes strictly ezComponents is a component library, not a framework. But given the size of the library, the consistency in how it functions, I made the decision to include it. I possibly should have also included PEAR.
I have no problem calling Zend a framework. There is a framework there, it is up to the developer do they want to use it that way, or just take components they need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes strictly ezComponents is a component library, not a framework. But given the size of the library, the consistency in how it functions, I made the decision to include it. I possibly should have also included PEAR.<br />
I have no problem calling Zend a framework. There is a framework there, it is up to the developer do they want to use it that way, or just take components they need.</p>
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